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Some brilliant designer in upgrading from 3ed to 3.5ed decided that only spellcasters can be alchemists. Not necessarily a problem in Greyhawk, but we have gunpowder in Ravenloft and suddenly one had to be a spellcaster to make gunpowder. And that is an evident problem in terms of flavour and rules for gunslinger prestige classes that could make gunpowder proficiently but now needed to have a spellcasting background to continue to do so. Moreoever it served to point out a general problem. How many Lamordian chemists consider themselves alchemists and are spellcasters? I would think approximately none. Given the modernity of some of Ravenloft's domains, chemistry in its own right needs to be recognised. Where one draws the line in terms of what can be crafted between the two of them is of course the question. My thought is if it can be done with chemistry in the real world, preferably at the appropriate period in history, and at comparable cost in terms of materials, equipment, gold and time, then it is chemistry and alchemy, if not it is just alchemy.[[User:Cure|Cure]] 19:51, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | Some brilliant designer in upgrading from 3ed to 3.5ed decided that only spellcasters can be alchemists. Not necessarily a problem in Greyhawk, but we have gunpowder in Ravenloft and suddenly one had to be a spellcaster to make gunpowder. And that is an evident problem in terms of flavour and rules for gunslinger prestige classes that could make gunpowder proficiently but now needed to have a spellcasting background to continue to do so. Moreoever it served to point out a general problem. How many Lamordian chemists consider themselves alchemists and are spellcasters? I would think approximately none. Given the modernity of some of Ravenloft's domains, chemistry in its own right needs to be recognised. Where one draws the line in terms of what can be crafted between the two of them is of course the question. My thought is if it can be done with chemistry in the real world, preferably at the appropriate period in history, and at comparable cost in terms of materials, equipment, gold and time, then it is chemistry and alchemy, if not it is just alchemy.[[User:Cure|Cure]] 19:51, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
I understand that. The problem is, not everyone is going to use the same solution. I'd rather we put a note in the Alchemy section about the discrepancy and let people solve it however they wish. If I were looking for alchemical stuff, I'd expect to see these things there. [[User:DeepShadow|DeepShadow]] 17:40, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Insofar as these are created with the Alchemy skill, why are they listed under Chemistry? DeepShadow 06:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Some brilliant designer in upgrading from 3ed to 3.5ed decided that only spellcasters can be alchemists. Not necessarily a problem in Greyhawk, but we have gunpowder in Ravenloft and suddenly one had to be a spellcaster to make gunpowder. And that is an evident problem in terms of flavour and rules for gunslinger prestige classes that could make gunpowder proficiently but now needed to have a spellcasting background to continue to do so. Moreoever it served to point out a general problem. How many Lamordian chemists consider themselves alchemists and are spellcasters? I would think approximately none. Given the modernity of some of Ravenloft's domains, chemistry in its own right needs to be recognised. Where one draws the line in terms of what can be crafted between the two of them is of course the question. My thought is if it can be done with chemistry in the real world, preferably at the appropriate period in history, and at comparable cost in terms of materials, equipment, gold and time, then it is chemistry and alchemy, if not it is just alchemy.Cure 19:51, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I understand that. The problem is, not everyone is going to use the same solution. I'd rather we put a note in the Alchemy section about the discrepancy and let people solve it however they wish. If I were looking for alchemical stuff, I'd expect to see these things there. DeepShadow 17:40, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
