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'''Cain Timothy''' was a [[werewolf]] born in [[637 BC]] in [[Mordent]]. He married the werewolf [[Elizabeth Timothy]]. She gave birth in [[660 BC]] to [[Eowin Timothy]], [[Ester Timothy]] and [[Sean Timothy]], all werewolves. [[Nathan Timothy]] is his grandson and [[Alfred Timothy]] is his great grandson. He and his wife died in [[679 BC]], violently one would presume and perhaps along side their son Sean. {{Spec|Eowin, Ester and Sean were named after the members of a famous litter from the prior century.}}
'''Cain Timothy''' was a [[werewolf]] born in [[637 BC]] in [[Mordent]]. He married the werewolf [[Elizabeth Timothy]]. She gave birth in [[660 BC]] to [[Eowin Timothy]], [[Ester Timothy]] and [[Sean Timothy]], all werewolves. There were 10 grandchildren, including [[Irene Timothy]], [[Nathan Timothy]], [[Clifford Dilisnya]] and [[Virginia Dilisnya]], and 16 grandchildren, including [[Alfred Timothy]], [[Ester Timothy (daughter of Nathan)]], [[William Timothy]], [[Thomas Dobbs]], [[Michael Ratcliff]], and [[Winifred Ratcliff]]. Cain and Elizabeth died in [[679 BC]], violently one would presume and perhaps along side their son Sean. {{Spec|Eowin, Ester and Sean were named after the members of a famous litter from the prior century.}}


==Continuity Problem==
==Continuity Problem==
The Bloodlines family tree for the [[Timothy Family]] in ''[[Realm of Terror]]'' gives [[660 BC]] as the birth date for [[Eowin Timothy]], [[Ester Timothy]] and [[Sean Timothy]]. From this birth date follow those of the children, [[Virginia Dilisnya]] (682 BC), [[Clifford Dilisnya]] (687 BC) and [[Nathan Timothy]] (684 BC), and those of the grandchildren, [[Winifred Ratcliff]] (706 BC), [[Michael Ratcliff]] (706 BC) and [[Alfred Timothy]] (709 BC).
The Bloodlines family tree for the [[Timothy Family]] in ''[[Realm of Terror]]'' gives [[660 BC]] as the birth date for [[Eowin Timothy]], [[Ester Timothy]] and [[Sean Timothy]]. From this birth date follow those of their children, [[Virginia Dilisnya]] ([[682 BC]]), [[Clifford Dilisnya]] ([[687 BC]]), [[Irene Timothy]] ([[684 BC]]), and [[Nathan Timothy]] ([[684 BC]]), and those of their grandchildren, [[Winifred Ratcliff]] (706 BC), [[Michael Ratcliff]] (706 BC) and [[Alfred Timothy]] [[(709 BC)]], [[Ester (daughter of Nathan)]] [[(709 BC)]] and [[William Timothy]] [[(709BC)]].


Unfortunately, ''[[Ravenloft II: The House on Gryphon Hill]]'' places a [[Eowin Timothy (I10 NPC)]] and a [[Sean Timothy (I10 NPC)]] in [[Mordent]] in 579 BC when [[Strahd]] and [[Azalin]] made their visit.  There is also an [[Esther Timothy (I10 NPC)]], albeit spelled with an 'h'. An attempt in the ''[[Realm of Terror]]'' to address the matter is made insofar as Cain Timothy and Elizabeth Timothy, the parents of Eowin, Ester and Sean, are put in that time in place of their children, with Cain Timothy being born in [[537 BC]] and Elizabeth Timothy being born in [[539 BC]]. This attempt is deeply flawed however. Not only are the children born over a century after their parents, the death dates of the parents are given as [[579 BC]], eight decades before their children are in fact born. The cleanest solution is to conclude that the correct birth dates for Cain and Elizabeth are [[637 BC]] and [[639 BC]] with the pair meeting a sticky end in [[679 BC]] (perhaps along side their son [[Sean Timothy]]) and that the Timothys from the prior century were a famous litter of three whose names were recycled by descendants in the naming of the litter of 660 BC.
Unfortunately, ''[[Ravenloft II: The House on Gryphon Hill]]'' places a [[Eowin Timothy (I10 NPC)]] and a [[Sean Timothy (I10 NPC)]] in [[Mordent]] in [[579 BC]] when [[Strahd]] and [[Azalin]] made their visit.  There is also an [[Esther Timothy (I10 NPC)]], albeit spelled with an 'h'. An attempt in the ''[[Realm of Terror]]'' to address the matter is made insofar as Cain Timothy and Elizabeth Timothy, the parents of Eowin, Ester and Sean, are put in that time in place of their children, with Cain Timothy being born in [[537 BC]] and Elizabeth Timothy being born in [[539 BC]]. This attempt is deeply flawed however. Not only are the children born over a century after their parents, the death dates of the parents are given as [[579 BC]], eight decades before their children are in fact born. The cleanest solution is to conclude that the correct birth dates for Cain and Elizabeth are [[637 BC]] and [[639 BC]] with the pair meeting a sticky end in [[679 BC]] (perhaps along side their son [[Sean Timothy]]) and that the Timothys from the prior century were a famous litter of three whose names were recycled by descendants in the naming of the litter of 660 BC.


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Revision as of 11:02, 12 November 2011

Cain Timothy was a werewolf born in 637 BC in Mordent. He married the werewolf Elizabeth Timothy. She gave birth in 660 BC to Eowin Timothy, Ester Timothy and Sean Timothy, all werewolves. There were 10 grandchildren, including Irene Timothy, Nathan Timothy, Clifford Dilisnya and Virginia Dilisnya, and 16 grandchildren, including Alfred Timothy, Ester Timothy (daughter of Nathan), William Timothy, Thomas Dobbs, Michael Ratcliff, and Winifred Ratcliff. Cain and Elizabeth died in 679 BC, violently one would presume and perhaps along side their son Sean. Eowin, Ester and Sean were named after the members of a famous litter from the prior century.

Continuity Problem

The Bloodlines family tree for the Timothy Family in Realm of Terror gives 660 BC as the birth date for Eowin Timothy, Ester Timothy and Sean Timothy. From this birth date follow those of their children, Virginia Dilisnya (682 BC), Clifford Dilisnya (687 BC), Irene Timothy (684 BC), and Nathan Timothy (684 BC), and those of their grandchildren, Winifred Ratcliff (706 BC), Michael Ratcliff (706 BC) and Alfred Timothy (709 BC), Ester (daughter of Nathan) (709 BC) and William Timothy (709BC).

Unfortunately, Ravenloft II: The House on Gryphon Hill places a Eowin Timothy (I10 NPC) and a Sean Timothy (I10 NPC) in Mordent in 579 BC when Strahd and Azalin made their visit. There is also an Esther Timothy (I10 NPC), albeit spelled with an 'h'. An attempt in the Realm of Terror to address the matter is made insofar as Cain Timothy and Elizabeth Timothy, the parents of Eowin, Ester and Sean, are put in that time in place of their children, with Cain Timothy being born in 537 BC and Elizabeth Timothy being born in 539 BC. This attempt is deeply flawed however. Not only are the children born over a century after their parents, the death dates of the parents are given as 579 BC, eight decades before their children are in fact born. The cleanest solution is to conclude that the correct birth dates for Cain and Elizabeth are 637 BC and 639 BC with the pair meeting a sticky end in 679 BC (perhaps along side their son Sean Timothy) and that the Timothys from the prior century were a famous litter of three whose names were recycled by descendants in the naming of the litter of 660 BC.

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